12-10-19-3-13-8-5

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:42 pm

Being very much like Consortium, and others, I hate DAing right off the get go. I will if a warrior rolls bad or shows no signs of promise. However I JUST do not see much promise in this guy.

My best look at it is a burner TP or a tank BA <shudder>.

12-16-19-3-16-8-10 TP burn DF then WL, see how he learns then move to CN

13-15-19-7-15-8-7 BA

As I said I hate to DA without giving my recruits a chance, gotta get some new talent scouts if this is the best they could find me in 2 weeks time, but all I see is PAAAAAAIN. BTW I already have 2 TPs and a broken aimer on this team (god help me).

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:50 pm

Embrace the stupidity and leave it alone, tank BA is the way I go with this guy;

12-10-19-3-13-8-5-->16-16-19-3-17-8-5 BA

APA/F MA and go to town, if you know your going after scum drop to ALE/H WH, run him 8-1-x or 10-1-x and let him swing when they get tired or he will swing if they go defensive. Pound away at all the physicals as much as you can and see how he does in 10 fights or so

ArchMaster Poster Joined: Apr 15, 2004 Posts: 2958

I'd go with either:

12-10-19-3-13-8-5 --> 15-15-19-3-17-8-7 BA

or

12-10-19-3-13-8-5 --> 12-14-19-3-17-8-11 TP

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:50 pm

I think the only chance this guy gets is his DA fight. If I'm gonna make a tank basher with both WT/DF =<7, then he's gotta have some serious tank to him (21 WL or CN or at least easily trainable to it), and this doesn't provide it. Save yourself some PAAAAIIINNNN, Street.

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:22 pm

Rough rollup. I think the best bet is to take 19 will. I think if I'm gonna roll this, it is going to be a Battle Axe warrior after trains:

12-10-19-3-13-8-5 -> 13-13-19-5-19-8-7 TP/WOS/PS

Alternatively, you can design for 3 trains and either go for 11 deftness or more con.

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:44 pm

gentleben wrote:

Embrace the stupidity and leave it alone, tank BA is the way I go with this guy;

12-10-19-3-13-8-5-->16-16-19-3-17-8-5 BA

APA/F MA and go to town, if you know your going after scum drop to ALE/H WH, run him 8-1-x or 10-1-x and let him swing when they get tired or he will swing if they go defensive. Pound away at all the physicals as much as you can and see how he does in 10 fights or so

I agree with Gentleben, that scum basher is the way to go

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:22 am

What is with the new recruits? Did they start recruiting from a new village? New cloning technology or magic?

I think I got this guy's younger brother... 4-15-17-4-11-9-10. Wanna trade? I like your guy better (and it isn't clear I'd run him)

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:11 am

as a TP - 14-16-19-3-19-8-5
as a tank BA 15-15-19-3-19-8-5 (he can parry, occasionally, with that MA)
We prefer the "big" BA to the BIG TP. (But we would certainly run either.)

ArchMaster Poster Joined: Sep 13, 2006 Posts: 1020

I wish they would take these guys out of the roll-up system/pool. I know there can be an argument for variety and making a challenging warrior work; however, if you ask me these guys are just plain terrible. Option 2 is they should take out cost for repeated DA.

I would go Tank BA as well if forced to use it, but with 3 wt he will really suffer Adepts onward.

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:48 am

Grimm wrote:

I wish they would take these guys out of the roll-up system/pool. I know there can be an argument for variety and making a challenging warrior work; however, if you ask me these guys are just plain terrible. Option 2 is they should take out cost for repeated DA.

I've suggested before that DA's from 0FE warriors should cost $1.00 per fight, not $1.50 per fight.

I'd also love to see a no-newsletter option on accounts. With the online newsletters, I normally throw away newsletters with the envelope.

As far as the rollup pool, that is tough to answer, because one man's trash is another man's treasure. I am quick to DA 30-32 wit+will warriors (15 and 15/17). But I just started running 4 warriors with wit+will totals of 10, 10, 11, and 12.

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:42 pm

Assurnasirbanipal wrote:

Grimm wrote:

I wish they would take these guys out of the roll-up system/pool. I know there can be an argument for variety and making a challenging warrior work; however, if you ask me these guys are just plain terrible. Option 2 is they should take out cost for repeated DA.

I've suggested before that DA's from 0FE warriors should cost $1.00 per fight, not $1.50 per fight.

I'd also love to see a no-newsletter option on accounts. With the online newsletters, I normally throw away newsletters with the envelope.

As far as the rollup pool, that is tough to answer, because one man's trash is another man's treasure. I am quick to DA 30-32 wit+will warriors (15 and 15/17). But I just started running 4 warriors with wit+will totals of 10, 10, 11, and 12.

I would take the no news letter option. It would have to save them money even if they charged just slightly less.

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:52 pm

Grimm wrote:

I wish they would take these guys out of the roll-up system/pool. I know there can be an argument for variety and making a challenging warrior work; however, if you ask me these guys are just plain terrible. Option 2 is they should take out cost for repeated DA.

I would go Tank BA as well if forced to use it, but with 3 wt he will really suffer Adepts onward.

We sort of like the idea that godlings are not so automatic and that we all have to "work" to get decent and great warriors.

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:23 pm

The Consortium wrote:

Grimm wrote:

I wish they would take these guys out of the roll-up system/pool. I know there can be an argument for variety and making a challenging warrior work; however, if you ask me these guys are just plain terrible. Option 2 is they should take out cost for repeated DA.

I would go Tank BA as well if forced to use it, but with 3 wt he will really suffer Adepts onward.

We sort of like the idea that godlings are not so automatic and that we all have to "work" to get decent and great warriors.

Taking one tier out just makes the next couple of tiers lose their shine also. The mediocre become the bad and the pretty good become the mediocre.

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:52 pm

I'll take your's all day Assur over mine. 9-17-17-4-17-9-11 TP.

Gave me some insight. I always look for 16+ CN on a TP but even with a 13 or 14 CN and a 19 WL he'll (my guy) take tremendous. That's a blindspot of mine you pointed out. Then I saw Consortium's design and figured he'd run that TP to at least a 29-21 record maybe 32-18ish. Now I'm thinking of running his. Damn you Duel2 Laughing

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:02 am

Street_Legal wrote:

I'll take your's all day Assur over mine. 9-17-17-4-17-9-11 TP.

Gave me some insight. I always look for 16+ CN on a TP but even with a 13 or 14 CN and a 19 WL he'll (my guy) take tremendous. That's a blindspot of mine you pointed out. Then I saw Consortium's design and figured he'd run that TP to at least a 29-21 record maybe 32-18ish. Now I'm thinking of running his. Damn you Duel2 Laughing

Interesting that our prediction would have been 32-18!
28-22 unlucky/difficult warrior mix
35-15 in a good/lucky mix